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RE: My Lackey and Haren for His C. Lee, Pierre, and Thome

charris414 — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:18:26 GMT

During the "negotiations" I was offerred Lance Berkman straight up for Jake Peavy from a different owner. A good trade that would fill my need for a power hitter, but would still leave me with a need for runs and steals. So I put off making a decision on this trade, till my dealings with the first owner were completed (for good or bad).

Eventually we came to an accord: I'd trade Jake Peavy and Chien-Ming Wang for Carlos Lee and Juan Pierre. In terms of talent and filling needs, I think it was pretty fair for both sides. However, IMO, I think I came out ahead in this deal, and here are my reasons why:

1. Carlos Lee fills all five offensive categories. 2. Juan Pierre is a top end run and steal producer, who should see immediate playing time. 3. Giving up Peavy hurts, but I still have Haren, Lackey, and Lincecum as my staff anchors. I also dropped Boof Bonser for Wandy Rodriguez.

4. (And most importantly) Trading away Wang doesn't hurt because I dropped Wigginton for Jeff Francis, who has been on the top NL starters over the last month. He's pitching for a team in the middle of a divisional race, with excellent hitters, he gets more strikeouts than Wang, is getting a comparable amount of wins, and posts similar ratios.

RE: My Lackey and Haren for His C. Lee, Pierre, and Thome

C-Dub — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:58:50 GMT

I have no problem with you trade Wang or Bonser, they are not good fantasy pitchers anyway.

RE: My Lackey and Haren for His C. Lee, Pierre, and Thome

charris414 — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:45:58 GMT

Thank you, that has been my stance from the beginning, and this other owner has been ridiculously adamant about acquiring at least two of the Peavy/ Haren/ Lackey/ Lincecum group. And I have been adamant about not making that kind of trade.

However, I would do a Peavy and Wang or Bonser trade, should he not move from the stance of needing two starting pitchers in return.

RE: My Lackey and Haren for His C. Lee, Pierre, and Thome

C-Dub — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:33:03 GMT

You can't make that trade, it will kill your pitching, I would try Peavy for Lee.

My Lackey and Haren for His C. Lee, Pierre, and Thome

charris414 — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:09:41 GMT

Standard Yahoo redraft league, 12 teams, mixed, 5x5, roto. I'm currently sitting in sixth place with 70.5 points, which is within 6 points of third place, and 11.5 points behind first place. The trade deadline is next Sunday, August 12th. My current roster is:

C - McCann; 1B - Morneau and A. Gonzalez; 2B - Kent; 3B - Glaus; SS - HanRam; OF - Cameron, Swisher, Melky Cabrera; Pence, Wigginton, Adam Jones.

SP - Peavy, Lackey, Haren, Lincecum, Wang, Bonser

RP - Capps, Jones, Hennessey, Benoit

Offensively, this team just hasn't come around yet, with just 24.5 points. Except for home runs (9 points), I have no more than 6 points for the remaining four categories. On the other hand, pitching is my strength, and I have a total of 46 points, good for second behind only the first place team.

Now the trade offer...

I've gone back and forth with the owner currently sittin in 9th place, who has only two starting pitchers, and a wealth of offensive talent: Saltalamacchia, Teixeira, BJ Upton, A-Rod, Tejada, Abreu, C. Lee, Bay, Braun, Hart, Thome, Pierre, and Dmitri Young. We've been countering for a few days for some combination of Peavy/ Lackey/ Haren/ Lincecum for Lee/ Pierre/ Thome/ Young. The current offer is Lackey and Haren for Lee, Pierre, and Thome.

In a league this deep, there aren't a whole lot of quality pitchers left, although Jeff Francis, Kason Gabbard, Greg Maddux, Dustin McGowan, Tim Wakefield, Bronson Arroyo, and Dave Bush are still free agents.

My biggest concern is how much of a drop off in my pitching will I have by letting go of Lackey and Haren, and having to replace them with one or two of the guys above? Offensively, the trade helps me where I need it (in the outfield mainly).

Please offer an opinion on this trade, and if there is a good counter-offer to be made involving other players.

Thanks for reading.